Reversals found by Shawn H. Smith
Ted Bundy Final Interview with Dr. James Dobson January 23, 1989
Ted Bundy was a convicted serial killer that had been sentenced to be executed for his crimes. He had three stays of execution. Finally, with all appeals exhausted and his execution approaching, he confessed to eight murders. He promised to tell of their details in hopes of another stay of execution, or even a possible commute to a life sentence. In all Ted Bundy confessed to more than 30 murders, some suspect it was far more.
Less than 24 hours before his scheduled execution he conducted an interview with Dr. James Dobson. Part of Dr. Dobson’s biography is that he was member of a commission in 1986 that filed a report called the Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography, also known as the Meese Report. The report documents what the committee found to be the harmful effects of pornography. Ted Bundy had read the report in its entirety. Ted Bundy claimed he wanted it known how violent forms of media and more specifically violent forms of pornography was the root cause of his actions, and this was the main topic of discussion during the interview. Critics believed this was a ploy by Ted Bundy to get another stay of execution. This interview became his last. He was executed on January 24, 1989.
Dr. James Dobson: “Ted, it is about 2:30 in the afternoon. You are scheduled to be executed tomorrow morning at 7 o’clock if you don’t receive another stay. What is going through your mind? What thoughts have you had in these last few days?”
Bundy: “Well I won’t kid you to say that it’s something that I feel that I’m in control [of, or something I’ve come to terms with] ’cause I haven’t.” This did not validate my soul.
Dr. James Dobson: “What are the antecedence for the behavior we have seen? Where did it start? How did this moment come about?”
Bundy: “but as a young boy, twelve, thirteen, certainly that I encountered, outside the home again, in the local grocery store or the local drug s[tore the soft core pornography what people] call soft core.” Would make believe that I would walk past it all.
Bundy: “We’re talking about an influence which, that is the influence of violent types of media and violent pornography, which was an indispensible link in the chain of behavior, the chain of events that led to behaviors, to the assaults to the murders and what have you. (laughs) [It’s a, it’s a very] difficult thing to describe.” Here I visit mystic.
(“Mystic” used here may mean: obscure significance. The entire interview is based upon the premise that violent types of media and violent pornography are the root causes of him being a sexual predator, and killer. Notice he laughs just before the reversal. Does it appear he can’t keep a straight face while talking about this as being the truth? Does it seem that what he just said is laughable because in reality it is a tale of “obscure significance”, and therefore not the root cause of his actions?)
Dr. James Dobson: “Can you help me understand this desensitization process that took place? What was going on in your mind?”
Bundy: “Well by desensitization I’d describe it, in specific terms, is that each time [I’d harm someone. Each time] I’d killed someone there’d be an enormous amount, especially at first, enormous amount of horror, guilt, remorse afterwards. But then that impulse to do it again came back even stronger.” No marking on this murder.
(As female college students began to go missing, at a rate of approximately one per month, police had been able to put together a description of a suspect and his car. It’s reported that despite tips from three different women who knew him, investigators did not pay any attention to the then clean cut law student Ted Bundy.)
Bundy: “The unique thing about how this worked Dr. Dobson is] that I still felt, in my regular life, the full range of guilt and remorse about other things.” Satisfied with that person not having it in me.
Bundy: “We’re talking here, [not just about] more, what I’m talking about is going beyond retribution. Which is what people want with me. Going beyond retribution, and punishment. Because there is no way in the world that killing me is going to restore those beautiful children to their parents, and correct, and soothe the pain.” I have obsession.